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Both a 223 suppressor / 22 Suppressor Design

This is something that comes up more often that we suspected that it would. A suppressor for use as a 223 suppressor and a 22 Suppressor in a single unit to save a tax stamp if possible. The main reason this is a problem is that the 22lr cartridge is wax coated and the was coating will build up in the silencer module requiring it to be dismantled for cleaning periodically. This is important because when you shoot the 223 rifle round through a silencer with 22lr buildup in it, it is possible to break look chunks of this material and then it floats around in the silencer and can possible contact the bullet in flight, this causes all sorts of problems like poor accuracy and worst of all… baffle strikes. These baffles strikes can also lead to catastrophic failure of the silencer as well. Not good outcomes. So we need to be able to dismantle the silencer to clean it…

Mystic X is a great 22 suppressor as well as a 223 suppressor.

First thing we have to do is eliminate the silencer models that we can not use so we know what we can pick from. The first to go are the sealed rifle silencers like the Sovereign and the Triumph. The next suppressor models to go are the dedicated 22LR silencer designs like the Vector and the Regulator. So what doest this leave? Let’s take a look at what silencers are optimal for this application.

The first model we would recommend is the most obvious. The Mystic X can do both of these calibers and has decent suppression on both with the 22lr suppressor option be really nice. This makes a lot of sense as it is a take apart design that has a baffle design that is strong enough to handle rifle calibers. Another trait of a suppressor design that can perform as both a 223 suppressor and a 22 Suppressor is modular mounting if possible and the Mystic X also has this feature.

The next model we would look at is the Constitution as it is designed to be maintained by the end user in a capacity that would allow it to perform both as a 223 suppressor and a 22 Suppressor both. This is because the tube can be removed by the end user for cleaning. It is not something we talk about a lot, but it can be done if the silencer is maintained at regular intervals to prevent tube lock. This design is also quieter than the Mystic X as it has a bore designed specifically for the 223 and smaller caliber cartridges. These two aspects make it great for a 223 suppressor and a 22 Suppressor in one package just like the Mystic X. While the Constitution does not have modular mount inserts, it is threaded in the most popular 1/2-28 thread that almost all 223 suppressor and a 22 Suppressor designs use so it will work in almost all applications.

So there you have it, two great options that allow use of both of those calibers. If you would like to discuss what your best solution would be for the calibers you want to suppress, give us a call at 706-661-6911 and we will help you figure out what you need. Until next time, keep your powder dry!

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The Best .22 Suppressor for You

When looking for the best .22 suppressor, we tend to get caught up in just numbers we read on the internet.

Dont get me wrong, those are important and even more so with a .22 suppressor, alternately there are several other factors you may or may not be considering. Let’s take a look at some of these factors toghether.

The first one is tone. Tone can make the best .22 suppressor sound terrible to the end user and everyone around them. This is because we perceive sound different from a sound meter does. The meter is a special instrument that can hear sounds WAY past the human ear, which is great for several reasons, but it doesnt information what the silencer sounds like to the ear. You see it will capture that peak sound or even plot it over time and show this amazing story of how great the silencer is going on paper, but if the pitch is really high, it will seem like it is whistling in the shooters ear and this isnt pleasant. So a nice deep tone is better even if it is a couple of dB higher than one that has a higher pitch tone. It will be perceived to actually be quieter even though the meter says otherwise.

The next thing the best .22 suppressor should have is a quality build, this means being made with high quality materials, a good engineering design, simple construction and so on. If the system can be dismantled and then it is not intuitive to be reassembled correctly, then it is not the best .22 suppressor choice in our opinion. Metals like titanium and stainless steel make for a durable and strong 22 silencer that will last many lifetimes. Finishes like Cerakote and Nitride coatings also greatly add to the life of the best .22 suppressor options out there. So dont forget things like this.

The next thing we would say to look at is size. It seems everyone wants to keep making their 22 silencer smaller and smaller. This is fine if they do, but we have found that there is a sweet spot between maximum suppression, back pressure and over all size when it comes to a great 22 silencer. When making a small design as quiet as a larger one, we end up with greatly increased back pressure most of the time causing firearm and ammunition fowling and sometimes overworking the action of the host weapon. So a slightly bigger design that allows the pressure to flow forward more will lower back pressure while maintaining a nice deep tone (remember that part?) as well. This seems to be overlooked for a great number on a spreadsheet these days and we dont understand why…

These are just some of the things we look at when we evaluate a choice for the best .22 suppressor in our eyes and we hope you have gotten something out of this that helps you with our choice. Until next time, keep your powder dry!

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.22 Silencer Choices in 2023

22LR Suppressors

When people think about the 22lr cartridge, most dont consider how or why to even add a 22lr suppressor to it. They dont realize that a 22lr pistol without a good .22 silencer on it will still have sound energies well above the limit of 140db…well above it…

We always consider which silencer we will be planning to use when we are looking at our options for a new host weapon. We no longer look at the firearm as a stand alone item but rather, it is part of a system that includes optic, firearm, ammunition AND a .22lr suppressor. Without any one of these key components, the system is incomplete and in our opinion is not ready to be fielded. The lack of attention to the .22 silencer is in part from a few things. The lack of knowledge that the silencers are even legal is a huge hurdle. Most people simply do not know that they are legal. Another hurdle is the ATF paperwork that comes with ownership and the associated responsibility that comes with owning a .22 silencer. Another hurdle is in finding one at all. Most firearm dealers dont have the extra licenses to deal in NFA items (which is what a .22 silencer is considered).

So let’s say you overcome all these hurdles and now are looking to get some .22lr suppressors of your very own. Which on do you pick? There seems to actually be no end to the options now a days. Well, here are a couple that we like…

The Regulator Ti .22LR Suppressor

This is the creme de la creme of silencers for a .22 silencer. The construction is titanium baffles and tube and on top of that, the over cap is light weight aluminum alloy so the whole thing on weighs 3.8 ounces! That is insane for any many 22lr suppressors out there today and the durability will last many lifetimes so there is no danger of ever wearing it out. The Regulator Ti also has world class sound suppression too. This makes it a .22lr suppressor that is perfect for virtually all rimfire applications.

The Regulator .22 Silencer

Now if all that titanium has you worried, there is another options out there. As far as 22lr suppressors go, the Regulator is one of the finest available. It provides class leading suppression, to the point of being considered a benchmark by many. This .22 silencer can do it all…except for one thing. This one thing is be shortened for use in rifle applications like the Vector can… This is why the Regulator .22lr suppressor is our best selling rimfire silencer. It just works REALLY well.

The Vector .22LR Suppressor

This is our newest design and most versatile .22 silencer ever. This silencer is designed from the ground up for ease of cleaning in mind and holds true to that feature. It can be dismantle easily even after 2000 rounds of rimfire use. This is no small feat as this would weld most other 22lr suppressors shut. The Vector also allows for modular use too, this feature was designed into it for use on rimfire rifles that didnt need a full size silencer. Most 22lr rifles using subsonic ammunition dont need much for a great sounding 22lr suppressor so this is easily done with the Vector in the short configuration.

So there you have it, three different solutions for a great .22lr suppressor that is readily available and work really well. So till next time, keep your powder dry!

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What is my favorite 22lr suppressor?

22lr suppressor 22lr silencer or 22 suppressor

So this could literally be a one sentence blog post, but I choose to not let it die that fast…lol

The fact is I have several 22lr silencer favorites , but there is one I keep going back to over and over and then there is another one I use a good bit too out of nostalgia or something like that.

The question is a little loaded too. If you wanted a general purpose 22 suppressor solution then it would be the Vector modular 22lr silencer. The reason is that it works really well on many different applications and it is utterly simply to take apart and clean at the end of a long range session. This is a big deal if you dont like taking your 22lr suppressor apart very often as it can be shot several thousand rounds and still be taken apart to be cleaned by hand…for the most part. There might be need for a 3/8 drive ratchet out of your tool box to get started but a lot of the time, it isnt needed…

If you wanted my choice for the absolute quietest 22lr silencer I have ever had the pleasure of shooting, then it would be the Regulator Ti 22 suppressor. This is because the Regulator Ti is so quiet and the tone is so nice that I cant thing of another 22lr suppressor that can even compare. Now keep in mind that it is not as easy to clean as the Vector silencer, but it is not really all that hard to clean as long as you stay on top of it. It is totally worth the extra work in the end though with the level of suppression that this 22lr suppressor has.

kodiak tl rimfire silencer core

Here is the inside secret though, my all time favorite 22 silencer of all time is the Kodiak TL. This was my personal pet project of rimfire suppression. The Kodiak TL was a culmination of over a year in development just to get the silencer to perform like I wanted it to and then it was something like 16 iterations to get it to this level. This is the silencer that the Regulator program is based on and for good reason. The Regulator is a game changing 22 suppressor. It is that simple. So if you want to learn more about dB suppression then follow this link and read what is going on to get a silencer to over 40dB of sound reduction.

So until next time, get your 22lr suppressor out and go shoot it.

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22LR Suppressor use on a Rimfire Rifle

Today we look at what is the optimal 22LR suppressor for a rimfire rifle and why we use one at all in this application.

Regulator rimfire silencer

There is a stark difference in the demands placed on the silencer when suppressing a pistol versus a rifle. The powder charge in a 22LR cartridge is consumed in the first 6″ to 10″ of bore in the gun barrel. What this means is that on a rimfire pistol we have unburnt gunpowder entering the silencer and then finishing the burn cycle. A 22lr suppressor is not actually designed for this application directly and it can cause wear to soft material baffles like aluminium. The term used for the damage that this can cause is ablative erosion, but that is for another blog post…

22LR Suppressor in a Rimfire Rifle

So , back to what I was saying. The rimfire pistol deals with the gas column in a different way from the rifle. The rifle is simply dealing with gasses and not burning powder particles. So since this is all the 22lr suppressor has to deal with on the rimfire rifle is can be optimized to work with this. What we have found is that it is imperative that you use subsonic ammunition in a rimfire rifle so the rounds do not break the sound barrier. This will make a lot of noise that there is no known technology to suppress. Once we know we have subsonic ammo, then we need some sort of silencer to capture the escaping gasses and allow them t expand some in a controller environment so they can lower their pressure and there by not reignite upon leaving the silencer.

Since all the powder is burned by this point and you are dealing with hot gasses only, the silencer can be a lot smaller. This is why we made the Vector 22lr suppressor modular in design. The extension module adds two more baffles to the system and this helps with use on a rimfire pistol. Since the gasses on a rimfire rifle are so much lower, the extension module can be removed and the shortened version can be used instead. This lends itself to a nice and lightweight package that is also fairly small too.

So if you are looking for a good, all purpose, 22lr suppressor then the Vector just might be the one you are looking for, for more info on the Vector and our other 22lr silencer offerings, just check us out at liberty cans.net
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Best 22LR suppressor for a new owner

When you think about a rimfire silencer, you think of things like the Regulator 22lr suppressor or the Vector rimfire suppressor, but there are other options as well.

You see, the new silencer owner also has other biases that they need to consider when choosing their first 22lr suppressor. These things include, clean-ability, sound suppression and weight as well as a host of other things like price and size. We will look at a few of these and a couple of silencer options that you might not consider as well.

vector 22lr modular silencer

22LR Suppression

Come on… we all know this is the real reason for buying the 22lr suppressor to start with. That “movie gun” sound that can only come from a suppressed 22lr is the magic that all suppressor owners strive for. We know that since this is the main criteria that we want to make sure to address this first and foremost. Even with other options on the table, the best suppressors for this task are the dedicated 22lr suppressor designs like the Regulator Ti and the Regulator. These are leading class sound reduction (with subsonic ammunition of course) and will last a lifetime with some routine maintenance. The next level up from this would be small bore rifle silencers. These would be very effective on suppression, but not practical as they are large and bulky compared to the design specific 22lr suppressor. Also, dedicated rifle silencers are not user cleanable for the most part and this poses a problem for rimfire use, cleaning…. This normally requires a trip back to the maker for cleaning and that can get costly.

Weight and Size

The next area that makes the most sense is in the physical weight and size of our choices. Now, of course, the dedicated models will be the best choice here again… (are you seeing the pattern yet?) But we can look at a few other ideas too. Another great choice for a light weight rimfire silencer is the Infiniti X multi caliber silencer. The Inifinti X is designed for maximum caliber choices (including all rimfire calibers) and light weight at the same time. So if oyu want options with your 22lr suppressor then you can also choose something like the Infiniti X as well as it will still allow light weight and excellent suppression too.

Price

Here is where the point to be considered leans towards the dedicated 22lr suppressor. The price of the silencer is one of the biggest factors for many people and a dedicated rimfire silencer will almost always be significantly cheaper than any other option out there. So if you plan to only shoot rimfire ammunition and price is a major factor for you then you will probably want something like a Regulator 22lr suppressor. You still get class leading…or some might even say… movie gun quiet out of it, and you can save some money in the process.

As you can see, these are just a few of the possible factors to consider when looking for a 22lr suppressor, but these are the ones we see the most often and the solutions we find for them. So what do you think is a factor for you? We would like to know and until next time, keep your powder dry!

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Who is the perfect silencer owner?

We look at the silencer owner in 2022 and what they look like now. This is a interesting subject that shows the variety of people that have learned how beneficial a silencer is and that we can all benefit from the use of silencers on our favorite firearm.

The group of people that use firearm silencers are as varied as the types of firearms that they use them on. We have the obvious tactical guy and the not-so-obvious girly girl, both benefitting from silencer use. Let’s take a look at the most common types I have observed:

Tactical training AR15 guy: You know the guy, he shows up to the range with a really nice carbine and a top tier suppressor on it, shoots Mozambique drills for an hour then packs up and goes home. These guys may seem like a bunch of posers to some, but what they really are is interested young people that want to enjoy the freedoms afforded to them by their fore fathers. I am glad to see them on the range. I hope that they continue to goto the range and practice, it may come in handy one day, you never know.

22 Timmy/ 22 Lily: these people love coming to the range with dad so they can shoot the 22 rifle with the Regulator Ti silencer on it. This has to be the highlight of the week! The steels at 50 yards never stood a chance! These will be our countries leaders in 25 years so it is important that they understand what the Constitution is and how we can participate in the process and knowing civics is a good part of that. This is part of that process.

556 rifle silencer on a bulpup carbine

The soccer mom: This segment is the sleeper cell of the gun community, you never expect this one as they dont normally look like the type that would enjoy coming to the range. When you see them step up to the line though, you know they are all business and love to shoot the Glock custom with the Centurion on it (and they like it even more if it has a little oil in it to help reduce first round pop). We are seeing an increasing amount of “mom” shooters who want a suppressor to make their favorite gun more fun to shoot.

The newly minted gun owner: These people are the 21 and 22 years olds who have just come of age and are well versed with the internet and have found that they can have a silencer because of youtube and the long list of companies making high quality silencers for them now. These are the next leaders of this country and we are glad to see them taking to this part of their birthright like they should. These people pick the multi caliber suppressor as their first foray into NFA as they are being frugal and this allows the most versatility for the cost involved. The Mystic X seems to be their silencer of choice and for good reason.

22lr silencer for pistol or rifle use.

The grand dad of the newly minted gun owner: These are typically people who were born in the 70s, these people were accustomed to guns being fairly easy to get and have, but never really thought about owning silencers as no one really knew who to get them from. Plus add to this the problem of there being very few makers at the time as well and this just compounded the problem. With the machine-gun ban of 1986 still in their minds, they love having freedom and these silencers, which were reserved for the elite few that knew where to get them, are grabbing them up now to protect what little hearing they have left.

The immigrant: These people came into the country mostly after the iron curtain fell in the 90s and have lived under communist rule. They know full well how the world works when the populace is disarmed and do not have the ability to defend themselves from evil people intent on committing evil acts against them. They love the freedom that comes from living in the USA and want to participate in all of it. These people are awesome and I take my hat off to them.

liberty suppressors rifle silencer

Last but not least, a silencer is sometimes found on the gun of a veteran. These people know the price of freedom as they have seen it first hand. The cost is high and they don’t want to just toss it aside like some discarded piece of clothing. They also understand that governments can go bad and that it is up to the people to make course corrections when this happens and that the three boxes of liberty have to be cared for. They train, but hope they never need it. These people are the ones that will be there when you need them most.

This is my thoughts on what I have seen at the range in the past couple of years and the people I have observed using a silencer. I may be way off base, but that is what it looks like to me. Thank you for your time.

David Saylors

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The Regulator Ti is the worlds best 22LR Rimfire Silencer.

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Regulator Ti silencer mounted on a Ruger 22/45 rimfire pistol.

When you are looking for a the pinnacle in rimfire suppressors, the only place to look is Liberty Suppressors and the Regulator Ti. The reason for this is simple, we have almost 20 years in the silencer trade and rimfire suppressors are a specialty of ours. We started out with some early designs that most people dont even know we made, such as the Sparrow silencer (yes, we made one before another company came out with the same model on their design). Then we made a new design and called it the Sparrowhawk rimfire suppressor.

kodiak tl rimfire silencer core
The Kodiak TL predecessor rimfire silencer.

Next came the Kodiak and Kodiak TL rimfire silencers with several advantages of each one, and from these came the Essence. The Essence was our first all titanium rimfire suppressor and gave us much of the inspiration for the Regulator Ti. We drew inspiration for the baffle design as well as the material choice and this made the Regulator Ti one of the lightest AND quietest rimfire silencers ever made.

The regulator Ti is one of the lightest rimfire silencers on the market today.

To understand how good the Regulator Ti sounds you honestly have to hear it in person, but to give you an idea… The Regulator Ti resembles what a small pneumatic staple gun sounds like when fired on a rimfire pistol like the Ruger MK IV series of firearms. This is the best description I have been able to come up with over the years. It is surprising when people fire it, especially if they have never fired a rimfire pistol with a silencer like the Regulator Ti suppressor installed. The usual reaction is snickering or chuckles followed up with a request to shoot it some more. Once you have had the pleasure of shooting subsonic, suppressed 22LR firearms, you will not want to shoot without a suppressor installed ever again. The design of the baffles is such that the gasses are forced to recirculate and the heat in the gas column is bled off through the tube wall as well as the volume allows for reduction in gass pressure to combine together for the perfect trifecta of rimfire silencer perfection.

If you want more information about the Regulator Ti, Regulator or Vector rimfire silencers just click on one of the photos above of the Regulator Ti to be taken to the webpage and you can navigate around from there easily. To talk to us about getting one of your own, just give us a call or shoot us an email to support@libertycans.net or 706-661-6911.

Of course, this is our opinion so take it for what it is worth, till next time, keep your powder dry…

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Which rimfire suppressor is right for me?

The Vector rimfire suppressor is perfect for a 22LR pistol.

Today we look at which rimfire suppressor we recommend for the 22 LR enthusiast.

When you go down the rabbit hole of 22LR rimfire suppressors, it is important to figure out what your personal needs are when it comes to this amazing firearm caliber.

Do you want the absolute quietest platform available?

Do you want to use your silencer and not have to worry about cleaning it very often?

Do you need several different configurations to work on many platforms?

These are just a few of the questions that many rimfire silencer owners end up asking themselves when they choose a rimfire suppressor. Some of these questions ask the new, or even seasoned NFA owner, to take a hard look at themselves and see what is a real need in their mind as opposed to what they think they want based on marketing hype or peer pressure.

Once the end user has found what really matters to them, it really boils down to just one question. Do I want the Regulator rimfire suppressor or the Vector rimfire suppressor? Let’s take a short look at the differences and what this means for the end user.

Regulator Rimfire Suppressor

The Regulator rimfire suppressor is designed for flat out performance. The absolute quietest silencer money can buy…bar none. If having the literal “staple gun” quiet 22 silencer is your goal, then the Regulator is for you.

Regulator Rimfire suppressor

The only drawback (if you can call it that), that we can come up with, is that to maintain this level of performance, the silencer needs to be cleaned regularly, on the order of every 500 rounds or so. This doesn’t sound like many, but if you look at most rimfire firearms, they normally need cleaning in the same sort of time frame as well. The Regulator can go a bit longer but the silencer will be harder to dismantle the longer you wait. Once again, for most people, this isnt an issue.

Vector Rimfire Suppressor

The Vector silencer does things differently. It is designed from the outset for the person who wants the maintenance of their silencer to be easy even after several thousand rounds of use. We went into the project with this in mind along with simple design so it is easy to assemble and modular so it can be configured to fit the users needs when it comes to a rimfire suppressor. We have tested the Vector on a Ruger 22/45 rimfire pistol and after more than 2500 continuous rounds of fire, the silencer came apart with minimal effort. We even have a video of this process that can be viewed here!

Vector Rimfire Suppressor

All of this is a moot point though, if you do not have quality subsonic 22LR ammunition. For this we chose to use CCI Standard Velocity ammunition. This ammunition is subsonic naturally and is also VERY consistent over all for a bulk available ammo. If you are looking for our recommendation for a 22LR rimfire cartridge, this is it.

Thank you and we look forward to hearing from you soon!

David Saylors

Liberty Suppressors

Booster Lockout Bushing

This bushing is used in place of the booster spring to “lock” the booster in the seated position. This allows proper use on fixed barrel firearms such as pistol caliber carbines like the Colt AR15 in 9mm or the Kriss Vector and handguns like the Walther P38 that have fixed barrels. It is not designed to withstand the pressures of rifle calibers like 556 NATO or 7.62×39 as these have significantly higher pressures and the booster could sustain damage if used on these calibers.

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