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Which rifle silencer for hunting?

When looking for a silencer for your hunting rifle, there are several good choices out there.

Here are the choices we will be looking at today in this blog post. A rifle silencer for hunting, integrally suppressed hunting rifle designs, and our integrally suppressed bolt action build called the Whitetail.

There are two basic types of hunting rifle silencer design on the market today. The first is the common muzzle silencer. This is anything from a dedicated caliber design like the Sovereign to something more broad in capabilities like a Mystic X suppressor. The second group are the integral and custom built designs. So let’s take a look at each of the suppressors to see which one is best of your application.

Muzzle mount silencers

These suppressors are the most common on the market and are readily available as stock items at most dealers that sell silencers. Silencers like the Sovereign and the Amendment are in this category and work really well. When looking for a rifle silencer for hunting be sure to look for things like weight, mounting scheme and primary caliber. These will factor into how well it will work for you and how adaptable it will be for other calibers and such as that. Take for instance the Sovereign rifle silencer, it comes designated in 7.62mm caliber. This means it is rated outright for 308 WIN and such but can easily be used of sub calibers as well such as 243 WIN and even 223 REM should the owner wish to do that. Now a caliber specific unit will produce better suppression, but it will be adequate with an over sized silencer too. Any hunting is mainly designed to reduce the initial noise level of the shot taken on game to help preserve the hearing of the hunter.

Another class of rifle silencer for hunting is the now common multi caliber suppressor. These are known for their ability to be used on a plethora of host weapons and calibers and have a large suite of adapters to facilitate this transfer. Silencers like the Mystic X and the Infiniti X fit into this category. They are light weight, they provide adequate sound reduction and are VERY versatile in design. When choosing a rifle silencer for hunting, just decide which of these features best fits your needs and desires and you will know what you need.

Custom and Integrally Suppressed Bolt Action Designs

This is where the person who already has a bunch of common muzzle silencers will end up after a while. These suppressors are some of the finest designs on the planet as they as designed specifically for the calibers in question and work really well accordingly.

The first one I will mention is the integrally suppressed hunting rifle. This is usually the kind like our Leonidas Gen 2 AR15 suppressed upper receivers. These are designed from the outset for maximum suppression in mind and will be the most jaw dropping builds that are on the range that day. You can literally hear the bullet impact the target when using these uppers. They are usually built in a caliber that is really common and is also naturally designed for subsonic use or at least have subsonic bullet options.

Leonidas Gen 2 main image - 300 blackout integral rifle silencer - best 300 blackout

The next is a integrally suppressed bolt action like our Whitetail integrally suppressed hunting rifle. This system is built on a host weapon and permanently attached to it for the life of the rifle, requiring a return trip to the maker to change things like the host weapon.With an integrally suppressed hunting rifle, you get the benefits of a nice bolt action rifle, and a purpose built silencer for that caliber. This helps mitigate things like blowback and sound at the shooters ear while maintaining accuracy and energy on target. So if you are looking for a integrally suppressed hunting rifle, then be sure to check out the Whitetail, Leonidas Gen 2 or even the Zulu 556 integral suppressor. All of these options will serve you well in the field and will make you the envy of the range at the same time. Until next time, keep your powder dry!

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What is my favorite 22lr suppressor?

22lr suppressor 22lr silencer or 22 suppressor

So this could literally be a one sentence blog post, but I choose to not let it die that fast…lol

The fact is I have several 22lr silencer favorites , but there is one I keep going back to over and over and then there is another one I use a good bit too out of nostalgia or something like that.

The question is a little loaded too. If you wanted a general purpose 22 suppressor solution then it would be the Vector modular 22lr silencer. The reason is that it works really well on many different applications and it is utterly simply to take apart and clean at the end of a long range session. This is a big deal if you dont like taking your 22lr suppressor apart very often as it can be shot several thousand rounds and still be taken apart to be cleaned by hand…for the most part. There might be need for a 3/8 drive ratchet out of your tool box to get started but a lot of the time, it isnt needed…

If you wanted my choice for the absolute quietest 22lr silencer I have ever had the pleasure of shooting, then it would be the Regulator Ti 22 suppressor. This is because the Regulator Ti is so quiet and the tone is so nice that I cant thing of another 22lr suppressor that can even compare. Now keep in mind that it is not as easy to clean as the Vector silencer, but it is not really all that hard to clean as long as you stay on top of it. It is totally worth the extra work in the end though with the level of suppression that this 22lr suppressor has.

kodiak tl rimfire silencer core

Here is the inside secret though, my all time favorite 22 silencer of all time is the Kodiak TL. This was my personal pet project of rimfire suppression. The Kodiak TL was a culmination of over a year in development just to get the silencer to perform like I wanted it to and then it was something like 16 iterations to get it to this level. This is the silencer that the Regulator program is based on and for good reason. The Regulator is a game changing 22 suppressor. It is that simple. So if you want to learn more about dB suppression then follow this link and read what is going on to get a silencer to over 40dB of sound reduction.

So until next time, get your 22lr suppressor out and go shoot it.

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Integral 300 Blackout Suppressor

When you are looking for the absolute quietest 300 blackout suppressor, look no further than the Leonidas Gen 2.

The Leonidas Gen 2 300 Blackout Suppressor assembly shown as a compliment to a lower assembly.

The Leonidas Gen 2 is in a league of its own and for good reason. The Leonidas Gen 2 300 blackout suppressor is an evolution in design from Liberty Suppressors. You see we have been building super quiet 300 blackout suppressor designs for over 10 years now and with the refinements that come with time, have produced a design that is small and yet super quiet too.

The design is very deliberate also. We made the silencer specifically so that it would only incur the stamp for the silencer module and not be classified as an SBR as well. This saved the end user significant money and hassle in the long term. The fact that it is not a SBR (short barreled rifle) by the standards of the NFA means it can travel over state lines to states that allow silencer possession with out any other paperwork. The SBR designation does require additional forms to be filed each time the silencer goes over a state line. This can be a huge hassle should you live in a border town along a state line…

Another benefit to making it an integral is that there is significant volume in an integral design over a thread on muzzle silencer. The 300 blackout suppressor is best served with lots of volume and what we can “low pressure” baffle engineering. This produces better tone as well as lowers blow back significantly. The design is also done in such a way that it is a tensioned barrel design and can be more accurate this way as barrel tensioning has shown in the past to more accurate.

Here we compared the old versus the new Leonidas designs, notice how the new one is shorter.

Another benefit to an integral 300 blackout suppressor build is that is can also be shorter overall than a standard carbine with a thread on muzzle silencer. This can be as much as 8″ shorter too, with the whole of the build almost being under the hand guard of the AR15 railed fore arm. This system is also free floated which has been proven to be a more accurate design element as well.

These are just a few of the parameters that make the Leonidas Gen 2 300 blackout suppressor worth considering and if you have any more questions about it, just give us a call. Till next time, keep your powder dry!

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300 Blackout Suppressor Options

If you didnt want an integral 300 blackout suppressor then what would you choose? Well, the list here is quite lengthy but we can trim it down to three options.

Option 1 – Multi Purpose Suppressor

Something in this category would be like the Mystic X or if you need light weight, the Infiniti X silencers. These silencers are a perfect match to the job of suppressing the 300 blackout. When a first time buyer is looking to get their first suppressor, whether it be a 300 blackout suppressor or even a 22lr suppressor, the multipurpose suppressor is what we recommend. This is because it gives the end user a lot of options and they are able to use this silencer on a plethora of host weapons to see what they really enjoy the most. This then arms them with the information they need to make an informed decision on their next purchase, because we all know that they will get another one…lol.

Option 2 – Dedicated 300 Blackout Suppressor

When it comes to options for a silencer to hush the 300 blackout cartridge, the first choice is always a muzzle can. The Sovereign silencer is a wonderful choice for a 300 blackout suppressor because of this and the fact that it is a 30 caliber silencer. The dedicated rifle silencer will always perform better than a multi purpose suppressor as it has been tuned for the application of 30 caliber cartridges. So if you are either planning on only shooting rifle cartridges or just 300 blackout then a nice rifle silencer like the Sovereign would be a great choice. This is more specialized than the multi purpose suppressor, but it will perform better all around.

Option 3 – Integral / Custom builds

The third option here today and my personal favorite though is the integral suppressor. Nothing and I mean nothing can compare to this 300 blackout suppressor. When the absolute best suppression performance is needed then you look no further than the Leonidas Gen 2 integral AR15 upper assembly. This is because the whole upper is a tuned system that works specifically with the 300 blackout cartridge. If you have never fired this 300 blackout suppressor, then you are missing out. The tone, accuracy and low back pressure design is the culmination of almost a decade of suppressor design in this specific caliber. Even the first generation of this design was a phenomenal leap forward in silencer design with the integrated gas block inside of the silencer to capture any gas leaking from this part of the high pressure gas circuit. What’s more, the Leonidas Gen 2 now has been redesigned to be shorter, lighter and quieter than the previous version. The extensive use to titanium in the construction of the silencer makes this possible. We also use a very specific upper receiver design that allows for less stacking tolerance and a free floated barrel/suppressor module, thereby increasing accuracy.

So of these three choices, which one appeals to you more? Normally the end user will start with a multi purpose suppressor then move to dedicated caliber specific muzzle mounted silencers and finally they will add in some integrally suppressed systems or even custom builds. So where are you on your silencer journey? Let us know in the comments and what custom or new integral would you like to see next? Until next time, keep your powder.

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Which silencer is the most fun? A 22LR Suppressor of course!

So which silencer is the most “fun” to go to the range and use? The title kinda gives it away, but a lot of people dont know the fun that can be had by getting a good high quality 22LR suppressor. With one of these little silencers you can goto the range for pennies on the dollar compared to the bigger calibers while also getting better sound suppression.

Regulator rimfire silencer

Sound Signature of a silenced pistol.

Before we wander down this rabbit hole, I am not a audiologist nor am I able to give legal advice because I am not a lawyer, I am just some guy who loves to read and learn things about sound. With that lets get into what I have found over the years.

This is the number one reason for getting a 22LR suppressor in the first place. The sound reduction of this caliber is on the order of 40dB or more sometimes and can literally turn a 22LR pistol into what sounds like a staple gun. You have to understand what 40dB means because the dB scale is logorythmic and the scale gets progressively stronger the higher the number. 10db is 10 times quieter, ok…what is 20db then? Well 20dB is 100, 30dB is 1000 and 40dB is a whopping 10,000 times quieter! At least that is how I understand it. Now this doesn’t mean that the sound is so low you cant hear it, what it does mean is that it will take a pistol that registers 150dB (what will cause immediate and irreversible hearing damage and make it 110dB which is well below the OSHA threshold of levels for short periods of time. We are taking those energies and converting them into other things like heat or spreading them out over time so the energy doesnt have as high of an maximum amplitude. You see a gunshot has a huge peak impulse then the sound falls off really fast, so if we can capture that energy and release it slower over time, then we can lower the maximum peak, making the perceived sound much lower. There is a law of physics that states you can neither create nor destroy energy, you can only alter it’s state. So what we are doing is altering the period of which the energy is released (since we can not destroy this energy, we have to do something with it) so that the over all amplitude is much lower. By spreading out the sound, the same amount of energy is present, but at a lower level. The Regulator Ti silencer does a wonderful job of this and can be used on pistols as well as rifles.

Cost of a 22LR suppressor.

The next thing most people learn about shooting rimfire ammo is that it is so much cheaper than centerfire ammunition. So this means that you can shoot more at an outing and more often for the same money as you could if you bought rifle ammo.

22LR also has another benefit from cost, it is easier to train a new shooter with 22LR than it is with centerfire ammunition. This is because the ammo that you will be shooting through the 22LR suppressor will be cheaper and they can train more plus the sound suppression will help them develop good habits instead of bad ones from reacting to really loud gunfire.

So if you are ready to tame that 22LR rifle or pistol, Liberty Suppressors has the tools you need. Until next time, keep your powder dry!

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What goes into a rifle silencer?

When looking at a rifle silencer, we need to look at several criteria. Let’s take a look at the Agent 556 rifle silencer.

Materials

Today, there are more materials than ever to make a quality rifle silencer out of. Things that dictate what is used come down to use case. The use case most of the time for a 556 silencer is high temperature capable with accuracy coming in second to that.

So the first thing that people do when they get their new 556 can is take it to the range and turn it into the forbidden popsicle, os so it seems… LOL

More times than not, people do not do this to their expensive and complicated purchase. But they will shoot it on short barrel rifles, machines gun and subject the silencer to heavy schedules of fire. A rifle silencer designed for heavy 556 use will have some sort of super alloy in the blast chamber, like 718 Inconel or the like. Our Agent has such a blast baffle in it. The next thing is that the baffle stack must be lightweight, rigid and durable. Here we also chose a specific material…titanium. Although titanium will spark initially when used due to ablative abrasion from gunpowder particles, once the sharp edges of the baffles near the bore line are smoothed out, this stops and the suppressor stops sparking. This phenomenon is experienced for different lengths of time based pretty much on barrel length. The longer the barrel, the less it sparks initially. But here is the magic of titanium. It melts at 1878 degrees and this is WAY past the point where it will do severe damage to the host weapon. So this is a super light material that has a high melting point and is capable of crazy strength numbers. The perfect combination for a light weight severe duty rifle silencer.

Rifle Silencer Baffle Design

So the next thing that really matters is the baffle design. With the Agent we designed the baffles strictly for 556 use and from the outset they have been optimized for this purpose. We wanted to make the absolute quietest silencer for a 556 rifle that we could while still making it as small as reasonably possible. This results in a rifle silencer that is small, light and quiet while still being very durable as well.

The Agent Silencer Tier 2 Kit

The main tactic used in the Agent suppressor baffle design is gas shear. This is where we cut the gas stream flowing through the suppressor into at least two separate streams and then force those two streams to interact in such a way that the gas flow is slowed and sort of recirculated inside the silencer.

This is a very effective design that is also a signature of Liberty Suppressors, where it also lowers the tone of the suppressor significantly. You see, tone makes as much of a difference as the level of the sound itself. Another thing we employ with the Agent is a special pressure lowering feature to reduce the amount of pressure pushed back into the rifle by letting it flow out of the front of the silencer. This is also effective in reducing the gassing that is experienced by the shooter of older silencer designs.

I hope this clears up a few things about the design factors going into a quality rifle silencer and that you are now better armed to make an informed decision. Until next time, keep your powder dry!

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350 Legend Suppressor anyone?

Let’s take a look at what it takes to suppress the 350 Legend cartridge. This round has become very popular in recent years and for good reason. The 350 Legend is a round that can do almost everything. When choosing a 350 Legend suppressor, first is a need for one that can handle the energy. This means that most 9mm silencers on the market are not really suitable as they can not handle the pressures of a rifle round without causing stress fatigue issues in the silencer. With velocities basically a little over double that of 9mm Luger, this round has a lot more energy to deal with.

Infiniti X Lightweight multi caliber suppressor
The Infiniti X makes a great choice for a compact 350 Legend suppressor.

Take for instance our Infiniti X silencer, this particular model is made from titanium and is more than capable of doing the job as a 350 Legend suppressor as it is made from metals strong enough to handle the gas energy of the cartridge. When we designed the Infiniti X we wanted it to be the lightest and the strongest 9mm bore suppressor available that could also handle rifle cartridges. This is a big thing for us and with this design we have achieved it. A 350 Legend suppressor needs to be light as it is going to be used for hunting and you want the hunting system to be as light as possible to reduce hunter fatigue in the field.

So the next thing to consider is how the silencer is designed in regards to the gas column being delivered by the cartridge. The Mystic X and the Infiniti X are both designs that use the 9mm Luger as the basis for the energy flowing through the silencer. This means they are initially designed to be best performers with pistol caliber energy level rounds. So we took this basis and then started adjusting it till it performed well on these intermediate rifle rounds too. Here is the crux though, the initial design is what is the best round for the silencer, so these take a back seat to the next silencer I will recommend.

silencer suppressor carbine AR15
The Goliath silencer makes the ultimate 350 Legend suppressor.

The real winner in the 350 Legend suppressor game is the Goliath. Although larger and more heavy than the Infiniti X, it works SO much better in suppressing the round. This performance comes from two things mainly. One is volume, the silencer is has more volume to work with. The next thing is the baffle structure is engineered to run with rifle rounds. So you have a silencer with more volume and is designed from the outset for rifle use. This is a combination made in heaven if you ask me. The weight of the Goliath is only 20 ounces and most of that weight is towards the rear of the suppressor so it doesn’t feel muzzle heavy either.

So there you have it, two very capable 350 Legend suppressor options that are designed for use with this cartridge and are available right now. So what are you waiting for? Give us a call today to discuss your needs and we will help you get the can you need headed to your dealer soon!

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A 10mm Suppressor you say?…

When you think of silencers, most people think of a 22lr suppressor, but there are several other calibers that are really fun to suppress and the 10mm AUTO is on of those rounds.

Why a 10mm Suppressor?

Part of the reason people like the 10mm AUTO cartridge is the power it delivers on target. Another reason is the cool factor. It being a relatively obscure cartridge, it isnt something that most people see everyday. Another thing about this round is that it is capable of taking on some pretty cool roles other than in a Glock model 20 pistol. It also responds to being suppressed really well and there is an active community of handloaders that make heavy, subsonic loads for it as well as the regular full power stuff.

The Cosmic is right at home on semi-auto handguns.

Enter the Cosmic and Goliath silencers

If you plan to put a suppressor on your 10mm AUTO, then you need something light, quiet, and durable like either our Cosmic or our Goliath suppressors. A 10mm suppressor needs to be able to handle the energy of the potent 10mm round as well as the gas volume this cartridge produces. Both of these silencers are capable of handling these criteria. The Cosmic suppressor will be better suited to pistol use where the user wants a semi-automatic handgun to cycle while firing. The Goliath, on the other hand, is perfect on builds like the CMMG Banshee in 10mm or the Hi-Point Arms 10mm Carbine

The Cosmic suppressor is designed from the outset for handgun use. This makes it smaller and lighter than it’s big brother the Goliath by nature, but this doesnt mean it lacks capability. The Cosmic will work really well for almost all applications that the Goliath can do PLUS it will cycle handguns too. Now that mean it is ALOMST as good as the Goliath in most applications, but not all. The Goliath silencer shines in the carbine applications for a 10mm suppressor. Things like the aforementioned semi-auto carbines as well as other unique builds like the TC Encore single shot builds in this caliber as well. These are the ones where the build can be tailored to subsonic rounds and the Goliath will be magical on these builds. With the volume of the Goliath, combined with the baffle technology, this would literally be “hollywood quiet” as the old saying goes…

The Goliath uses thread inserts to allow for multiple thread options.

So to summarize, if you are wanting a silencer for your 10mm build, we have a couple that will do the job really well. Go ahead and give us a shout so we can get your build started today and dont forget to keep your powder dry!

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A trick to adjusting POI on a 9mm silencer

When you use a 9mm silencer, there is a plethora of added parts to the pistol system that can affect accuracy. The silencer is the last part of that system and because of that, has the most potential to affect Point of Impact.

Cutaway booster assembly

How a 9mm silencer works with a booster

The first thing we have to understand is how the pistol and silencer work together. The part that connects the two devices is called a “Booster”. This little mechanism is a wonderful invention that allows the pistol to function with the added mass of the silencer to be attached to the end of the barrel. It also decouples the silencer momentarily from the gun so that the barrel can move before the the silencer does. This allows the gun to unlock and cycle in a new cartridge while the silencer “floats” in space in front of the gun. To keep this assembly repeatable, we have the booster indexed with little teeth inside the booster. There are ten of these teeth in the booster and ten slots that they fit into them. Our booster design for the Mystic X 9mm silencer family is designed in such a way that you can index the silencer in 36 degree increments.

So what this means is that we can unlock the booster and index it to a different position in the booster housing. The method to do this is pretty simple in our 9mm silencer assembly since the booster is not keyed for the full length of travel. Simply unload the gun, we dont want someone getting hurt doing this. Then grab the silencer and pull it away from the gun until the teeth in the booster clear the slots they fit into. Turn the silencer a little and reset the teeth into the next slot so not the teeth are shifted on slot in either the right or the left. This will also shift bullet impact as the silencer will impart a “nudge” to the bullet in flight due to the gas turbulence in the 9mm silencer.

silencer booster assembly
Various generations of Liberty boosters

When you shoot at the target the next time, you will notice the group will have shift somewhat to a new location based on the new index location of the booster. We here at Liberty will normally shift impact by indexing the booster until the group is at the 12 o’clock location and possibly high as it is simpler to aim based on a vertical location than any other. Normally this isnt a very large shift, but sometimes there are factors outside of our control and the planets just dont align. It is a thing that some guns just dont cohabitate with a silencer installed, but most do and this works 99.9% of the time. So if your groups are somewhere odd when you shoot suppressed, this may be the solve you are looking for. Until next time, keep your powder dry!

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22LR Suppressor use on a Rimfire Rifle

Today we look at what is the optimal 22LR suppressor for a rimfire rifle and why we use one at all in this application.

Regulator rimfire silencer

There is a stark difference in the demands placed on the silencer when suppressing a pistol versus a rifle. The powder charge in a 22LR cartridge is consumed in the first 6″ to 10″ of bore in the gun barrel. What this means is that on a rimfire pistol we have unburnt gunpowder entering the silencer and then finishing the burn cycle. A 22lr suppressor is not actually designed for this application directly and it can cause wear to soft material baffles like aluminium. The term used for the damage that this can cause is ablative erosion, but that is for another blog post…

22LR Suppressor in a Rimfire Rifle

So , back to what I was saying. The rimfire pistol deals with the gas column in a different way from the rifle. The rifle is simply dealing with gasses and not burning powder particles. So since this is all the 22lr suppressor has to deal with on the rimfire rifle is can be optimized to work with this. What we have found is that it is imperative that you use subsonic ammunition in a rimfire rifle so the rounds do not break the sound barrier. This will make a lot of noise that there is no known technology to suppress. Once we know we have subsonic ammo, then we need some sort of silencer to capture the escaping gasses and allow them t expand some in a controller environment so they can lower their pressure and there by not reignite upon leaving the silencer.

Since all the powder is burned by this point and you are dealing with hot gasses only, the silencer can be a lot smaller. This is why we made the Vector 22lr suppressor modular in design. The extension module adds two more baffles to the system and this helps with use on a rimfire pistol. Since the gasses on a rimfire rifle are so much lower, the extension module can be removed and the shortened version can be used instead. This lends itself to a nice and lightweight package that is also fairly small too.

So if you are looking for a good, all purpose, 22lr suppressor then the Vector just might be the one you are looking for, for more info on the Vector and our other 22lr silencer offerings, just check us out at liberty cans.net
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Armageddon Gear Mystic X 9mm Suppressor Cover

Suppressors get hot during use. This is why we collaborated with Armageddon Gear to make a thermal heat shield cover for our most popular 9mm suppressor we offer.

Custom embroidery Armageddon Gear silencer cover.

9mm Suppressor Heat Problems

The 9mm suppressor that we are talking about here could be either the Mystic X or Infiniti X multi caliber suppressor. The silencers in use here also multi-purpose, so they are often used on rifles as well as pistols. The rifle use is really where we see the need for these suppressor covers from Armageddon Gear. When a suppressor is being used on a rifle it will absorb a tremendous amount of heat from the gas column passing through it. This heat is dissipated in two different ways. The first is regenerated back into the tail end of the gas column like a traditional gas regenerator and the second is through regular old conduction to the atmosphere around the outside of the silencer. This normally isnt a real problem, unless you want to see your sights and the target so you can line them up for a followup shot or something like that… Enter the suppressor cover, this wonderful device simply slips over the existing silencer and insulates it from the atmosphere temporarily to slow the radiation of the heat to the outside.

Notice I said it “slows” the radiation of heat, this is because it doesn’t stop the heat, but simply slows it down. The heat will eventually soak through and then the cover and suppressor will have to cool before use. Also, if your cover isnt made from special high temp materials, you can get the suppressor hot enough to melt covers like this Armageddon Gear suppressor cover. This cover is not a severe duty design to prevent burns at extreme temps but is designed to reduce heat mirage for follow up shots in a hunting situation. Those applications are different from the purpose of this one. So at the end of the day, this cover works perfectly for hunters and recreational target shooters or even entry teams that fire minimal amount of rounds on an entry. Another benefit from the cover is that since it is not metal, when it rubs on a limb in the woods, it will have a much more subdued sound opposed to the high pitched sound of titanium tubing rubbing on a branch in the forest.

Armageddon Gear suppressor covers just keep giving…

Another benefit from using a suppressor cover is that it breaks up the color pattern of the black part on the end of the barrel. It basically camouflages the firearm somewhat by adding the color to the end. Then finally there is one last benefit of using a suppressor cover…it helps you not to get burned! Yep, it will reduce the chances of getting burned from a hot suppressor. LOL I had to throw that in just for fun. Anyway, these are just some of the benefits of using the Armageddon Gear suppressor cover. Until next time, keep your powder dry.

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What ammo do I need for my 9mm suppressor?

When looking over things that people frequently ask us about the world of suppressor ownership, one of the main things we find is ammunition choice for a 9mm suppressor.

Ammunition comes in two basic flavors in the world of 9mm suppressor ownership, and you need to start thinking in these terms if you want to get the most out of your 9mm suppressor. Super-sonic ammunition and subsonic ammunition.

Super sonic ammunition for 9mm silencer use.

When shooting super sonic ammunition through your 9mm suppressor, it will suppress the gun’s “bang” but there is a second noise that the silencer can not suppress.The supersonic flight noise of the projectile flying to the target is much louder than most people realize and is the number one complaint of a new silencer owner when they goto the range for the first time without knowing about this kind of ammunition to use. This is a common complaint and we have tried many different methods to educate people on it, but it is still a problem with new owners. For 9mm use, ammunition is running right at the super-sonic threshold and sometimes goes over this point. This speed is approximately 1070 feet per second and varies with all sorts of parameters, but understand that it is close to this number and if you go too fast, it will “crack” because the projectile is make a mini sonic boom as it flies down to the target.

Subsonic ammunition of 9mm suppressor use.

This is the most desirable ammunition for most applications. We understand that in some applications that certain ammo is needed, but for the most part this will be the ammo that you will want to use. The easiest way to know if the ammunition is subsonic is to shoot it. If it sounds super good and like a staple gun then it is subsonic, lol. At least that is how it should sound coming from one of our 9mm suppressors like the Infiniti X pistol silencer. All joking aside, some ammunition will be marked on the box as such. Another way to tell is to look at the bullet weight of the rounds you are thinking about using. if the bullet weight is 124 grains or less it is almost certainly super sonic ammunition. If the bullet weight is 147 grains or heavier then it will almost always be subsonic ammunition. There are instances where this doesnt work, but for the most part, it does.

Cutaway booster assembly
(Cutaway view of a booster showing component layout.)

Another thing to remember is that some 9mm subsonic ammunition is designed to be slow enough by reducing the energy of the powder charge. This will normally produce two things at once. The first is a nice sounding suppressor, the second is erratic cycling or failed cycling of the host weapon entirely. We have seen this often with handholds, the speeds are crazy slow and super quiet, but the gun wont cycle reliably. The recoil booster on the pistol silencer will help sometimes with this, but not always, there has to be enough energy to overcome the guns system as designed and some additional drag from the suppressor as well or it wont operate as intended.

These are the main things we look for when looking for ammunition for our 9mm systems with silencers installed on them. So if you have anymore questions, click on this link to be taken to the website for help.

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What is the best type of suppressor in 2023?

Suppressors come in many shapes and sizes. So when you are looking for the best type of suppressor, we want to look at several factors like application, price, familiarity with the process of ownership, what other suppressors owned, ect. Let’s take a look at these factors and see if we can clear up some of the confusion for people looking to get a new silencer.

Application

A lot of people that are new to silencers will want a one size fits all approach, but once this desire is filled, they start wanting another suppressor, but dont know exactly what they want. Here is my “secret sauce” test to see what I would recommend next for the person wanting another suppressor, but not knowing what that silencer is.

It takes a little time, but it works 100% of the time too. If you really want to get another suppressor and do the whole ownership process and spend the money and time to do it, then do this test first. It will save you a lot of buyers remorse down the road.

Get one of the little pocket notebooks or even start a note on your iPhone and every time you goto the range, log what you shoot, roughly how many rounds with that gun, and then literally any notes about what you was thinking about like, “wanting to shoot 22LR suppressor today but only had my Infiniti X so I used that.” These journal entry notes will give you a crazy amount of clarity on what you really want in a silencer versus what the current hotness is that you are looking at online.

I recommend logging at least ten range sessions before reading the results too so you can have some data points that are starting to lead you in a direction. Standard engineering practice is to collect at least 30 data points minimum, but sometimes we dont want to wait that long on picking our next suppressor…

Agent 5.56 rifle silencer suppressor
Agent 5.56 rifle silencer

Suppressor Price

This is a big one for a lot of people. This is why there are literally dozens of suppressor companies out there now at all price points. People have different budgets, valuations and desires. Once you figure out the caliber, now you can start looking at silencers in this caliber area and considering what your specs will be based on price point.

Say you want a 556 suppressor now that you have seen you shoot tons of 556 at your range sessions. So there are low cost 556 direct thread suppressors, mid level QA 556 silencer, and even high end special application 556 cans including things like the Zulu integral and titanium silencers like the Agent.

You are the only person that can decide how much a silencer should cost for you. Choosing a integral suppressor is a big decision and one that you will have to live with for quite some time, maybe even till you depart this realm. This being said, you should consider how much you will enjoy this purchase over the next few years and only you can decide this. Suppressors in the USA are built very well since the NFA makes ownership more complicated, so picking one that fits your desires is critical.

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Process of Ownership (in the USA)

The process of ownership in the USA is kinda burdensome, and that is probably by design. Normally when congress passes a law about something they dont like, they will make the legal path to that activity very cumbersome for the person wanting to participate legally in the activity. Suppressor ownership is one of these activities and the process of ownership has to be factored in. The process for suppressor ownership in the US is something like this. You purchase the suppressor and then file some forms with the NFA branch of the ATF to transfer ownership to your from the gunstore. This process can take upwards of a year and I have seen it happen very fast too, you just really dont know for certain, but normally it take 8 months or so from the averages I have seen for the forms to clear. Then once the forms clear the ATF, you goto the gun store and pick up your suppressor with a traditional 4473 like any other gun purchase. This is the super simplified version, but you get the idea.

What other suppressor designs do you own?

The reason this one matters is that most people dont want to have redundant silencers to start out. They look to expand the range of guns that they can suppress and this usually involves getting different kinds of suppressors so they can cover these guns. The world of suppressor ownership is unique in that we have literally “do everything” silencers and the opposite end of the spectrum…integral suppressors. The integrals are the ones that most people become infatuated with after owning a couple of suppressor designs that are more versatile.

With all this I want to say, that there are no hard and fast rules to choosing your next suppressor, but these are the typical routes that most people follow. The integrally suppressed rifle is something that a lot of people wont find appealing in the beginning as it is a “one trick pony” and they can only use it like this, but after a while, this starts to look more and more appealing and people will gravitate to these eventually. Just seems to be human nature. Anyway, hope this was helpful and until next time, keep your powder dry!

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Why the Liberty Kit is for True Patriots

At  Liberty Suppressors, we create some of the finest silencers on the market and provide you with some of the best merch and cleaning supplies to match it. We offer a huge variety of product packages to help you rep our brand and keep your silencer clean. The Liberty Kit is one of these packages and can help patriots all over America care for their suppressors.

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Made In America

At Liberty Suppressors, all of our products are made right here in the U.S. When you shop with us, you are not only supporting an American-owned and operated company, but you are supporting American manufacturing companies in and around the U.S.

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Keep Your Firearm Clean

Owning a firearm isn’t just about exercising your Second Amendment rights, having the ability to hunt with your firearm, or defending yourself. Instead, maintaining your firearm and your silencer is something that allows you to properly and patriotically own your firearm — and the Liberty kit helps you to do just that.

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Rep Some Liberty Suppressor Merch

Liberty Suppressors is an American company that specializes in helping you to hunt, shoot, and defend yourself safely and effectively. The Liberty Kit is the perfect way to express your patriotism through supporting a company that helps you to exercise your Second Amendment rights effectively.

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Support an American Company

As a United States company, we are committed to providing you with products made right here and supporting our employees in our Georgia community. If you are looking to support your neighbors, the Liberty Kit can help you do just that!

The Liberty Kit not only includes our suppressor cleaning kit, but also some sweet merch for everyday life. If you are looking to support an American company and safely utilize your silencer, the Liberty Kit is for you. Shop this kit and much more today!

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Christmas Ideas that are easy!

When you think of silencers, you think that the process involves forms and time, but did oyu know that Liberty Suppressors also has a ton of other stuff that is not regulated like suppressors?

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We have all sorts of things like Cole-tac Boss Bags, Armageddon Gear suppressor covers and even Dead Air Keymo mounts!

If you think about it, the Dead Air Keymo mount is one of the best values in non-regulated items in the suppressor world. The Dead Air Keymo mount works on a large quantity of different silencers and in our opinion, it is the best QD mount available in 2022. So if the Dead Air Keymo mount is something that you have been looking at picking up, now is the time! We have limited stock on hand and they are ready to go.

Now, shifting to the body of the silencer, if you shoot long range or just target shoot more than a few rounds at a time, you know that heat mirage is a huge problem with scoped rifles. This is why we have the Armageddon Gear suppressor cover as an option for people on many of our silencers. The Armageddon Gear suppressor cover allows the user to shoot their rifle many more times than would be possible without the Armageddon Gear suppressor cover before heat mirage makes target acquisition possible. You see heat rises off of the silencer when you shoot and this heat causes mirage to distort the view through the scope or even mechanical sights… So if you hunt with your silencer another benifit of having a Armageddon Gear suppressor cover is that the noise of the suppressor rubbing against foliage is toned down and made to be more subdued and not sound so foreign in nature. Armageddon Gear suppressor cover is made of ballistic materials and this cloth has a more appropriate color in the field as well. It blends in really well.

Last but not least is the Cole-tac Boss Bag. This device is not for the silencer directly, but instead it aids in aiming the rifle and supports the shooter in odd positions. The Cole-tac Boss Bag is a support system that the PRS community has been using for a while now and is an invaluable resource for field ops as well. At the range, the Cole-tac Boss Bag keeps the gun nice and steady when confirming zero or shooting groups to confirm which handholds perform the best or even to just put your elbow on so you dont rest on the bench, it has tons of uses. The Cole-tac Boss Bag is lightweight and works really well when out hunting too. If oyu need a good steady bag at the lady of the rifle that is still lightweight, then the Cole-tac Boss Bag is just the thing for you. It just works and works and works…

Cole Tac Boss Bag

These are just a few of the things we have in the webstore that you can get without paperwork and we are here to get you going, dont hesitate to give us a call or goto the website and reach out via email!

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Firearm suppressor safety concerns.

I wanted to take a minute to talk about something that a lot of people seem to simply dismiss. That is safety surrounding the use of a silencer.

You see, people tend to think of the suppressor as a safety device and they are not wrong here. There are also some concerns that tend to surface in the warranty department from time to time as well. I figured it would be a good topic to inform people of the common and not so common items that tend to show up for warranty and that are true safety concerns.

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  1. People seem to think that if a bullet will fit in the front of a silencer, that it can be used with this caliber. Sometimes this happens even when the maker clearly states otherwise. We speculate that it is because the end user feels the silencer company is simply wanting to sell more suppressors by not rating a particular model of silencer for a slightly larger caliber. This couldn’t be further from the truth. Silencers here at Liberty are typically bored .050″ over the marked caliber for clearance of the bullet in flight, possible base yaw from unstabilized rounds, and stacking tolerance issues between the host firearm and the silencer. If you add .050 to a 9mm bullet (.354), you get .404″ The Mystic X is bored slightly bigger at .413″ at the muzzle end. Note a 40 S&W is .400″ diameter. Technically it will fit, but with only the thickness of a couple of sheets of paper all the way around…at the muzzle. Here is the rub, the other end of the silencer is not this big as the bore is tapered… In fact is it significantly undersized and will not pass a 40 cal bullet at all. Rule to follow here: Do not use calibers bigger than the rated calibers from the maker of the silencer.
  2. Using the wrong silencer for the job at hand. Seems that a lot of people think all silencers are made the same, unfortunate this is not true. Suppressors are made for a host of different jobs to include hunting, long range shooting, recreational shooting, training, patrolling and combat. Some are severe duty cycle engineered so they will survive heavy firing schedules and some are designed to be the lightest silencer possible for deployment in the field for hunting to keep fatigue to a minimum. Using something like the Mystic X on a machine gun will end in terrible failure typically. This silencer isnt designed for this kind of severe duty. It is meant to be used in semi-auto applications, where the suppressor can dissipate the heat from use over time, machine-guns typically build up heat so fast that the suppressor can easily be heated cherry red in just minutes. This is not a safe condition to operate your silencer in and you should stop if you see it turning red and allow it to cool. There are silencers that are available and designed for this application though and using them will extend the cycle time of a machine-gun, but even those will fail under prolonged exposure to full auto fire.
  3. Assuming things do not change during use. This comes in the form of not checking to see if the silencer is loose after shooting it some, typically before it gets too hot to touch. We have seen this one all to often, a person gets a new silencer. Installs it on their rifle, shoots a couple of magazines of rounds through it. Suddenly and for what appears to be no reason at all, the accuracy goes down hill. The groups open up on target and some of the bullet holes are no longer round but shaped like the side profile of the bullet! What has happen here is the suppressor “shot” loose. The heating of the parts in the system, the barrel and suppressor end-cap, will cause them to work loose. they are made from two different metals that have different thermal expansion characteristics, not to mention they are two different sizes and shapes. This typically results in the rear cap expanding faster than the barrel and therefore the thread interface will loosen as the rear cap grows. This causes the suppressor to drop in the front since the thread fit is looser now and then you start getting baffle strikes at the exit end of the suppressor. Hence the sudden change in accuracy and the key holing in the target.

These are some of the concerns we have encountered over the years, so the point is, follow the manufactures recommendations and if you dont know for sure, ask before you try it and keep that suppressor tight!

Until next time, keep your powder dry!

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Choosing the Right Suppressor for Your Gun

At Liberty Suppressors in Georgia, we offer some of the best silencers for guns that you can find. From our custom fits to our quality materials, each suppressor is a work of art. If you’re looking to join our family of firearm enthusiasts by purchasing one of these great pieces, then keep reading to learn about how to find the right silencer for your gun, and contact us with any questions!

The Caliber

The first thing to consider when shopping for a suppressor is the caliber of firearm you plan to use it with. A small-caliber gun, like a .22, will need a smaller suppressor than a large-caliber gun, like a .50. If you’re not sure what size suppressor you need, then our team at Liberty Suppressors can help you figure it out.

centurion 9mm silencer

Length of the Barrel

The length of the barrel is another factor to consider when shopping for a silencer. The longer the barrel, the more room the suppressor has to do its job. So, if you have a short-barreled gun, then you’ll need a shorter suppressor. Conversely, if you have a long-barreled gun, then you can choose from a variety of silencer lengths.

The Agent Silencer Tier 2 Kit
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The Sound Reduction

Finally, you need to consider the amount of sound reduction you need. This will depend on how often you plan to use the suppressor and for what purpose. If you’re a hunter and you only plan to use the silencer occasionally, then you might not need as much sound reduction as someone who uses their suppressor for regular target practice.

Knowing Where To Start

With so many different suppressor options available to you, it can be difficult to know where to start. That’s why the experts at Liberty Suppressors created the Mystic X with first time buyers in mind! This suppressor is incredibly versatile, rated for over 70 different calibers, ranging from 22lr up to 300 Win Mag.

At Liberty Suppressors, we have a variety of suppressors to choose from, and our team can help you find the perfect one for your gun. Explore our selection today!

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Why the Liberty Kit is for True Patriots

At  Liberty Suppressors, we create some of the finest silencers on the market and provide you with some of the best merch and cleaning supplies to match it. We offer a huge variety of product packages to help you rep our brand and keep your silencer clean. The Liberty Kit is one of these packages and can help patriots all over America care for their suppressors.

Made In America

At Liberty Suppressors, all of our products are made right here in the U.S. When you shop with us, you are not only supporting an American-owned and operated company, but you are supporting American manufacturing companies in and around the U.S.

Keep Your Firearm Clean

Owning a firearm isn’t just about exercising your Second Amendment rights, having the ability to hunt with your firearm, or defending yourself. Instead, maintaining your firearm and your silencer is something that allows you to properly and patriotically own your firearm — and the Liberty kit helps you to do just that.

Rep Some Liberty Suppressor Merch

Liberty Suppressors is an American company that specializes in helping you to hunt, shoot, and defend yourself safely and effectively. The Liberty Kit is the perfect way to express your patriotism through supporting a company that helps you to exercise your Second Amendment rights effectively.

Support an American Company

As a United States company, we are committed to providing you with products made right here and supporting our employees in our Georgia community. If you are looking to support your neighbors, the Liberty Kit can help you do just that!

The Liberty Kit not only includes our suppressor cleaning kit, but also some sweet merch for everyday life. If you are looking to support an American company and safely utilize your silencer, the Liberty Kit is for you. Shop this kit and much more today!

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Liberty Suppressors Agent 556 Silencer has arrived!

The Agent is our latest dedicated 556 silencer and it has all the features you cold ever want in a detachable silencer design. The silencer is made from titanium and inconel (blast baffle) for long life and a light weight feel. When we designed this silencer, we wanted something that was not already available in this space. The reason was that we wanted to serve the people looking for a lightweight, severe duty 556 silencer that could be configured in any way the user needed it.

How we did this was to add a 1-3/8×24 socket to the back of the silencer so that we could install a plurality of mounting solutions. These include direct thread adapters from us or anyone in the industry that makes a quality adapter, or even something like the Dead Air Keymo mounting scheme as well. We actually offer the Agent 556 Silencer as packages with either the end cap only, nothing at all or the “full monty” of the end cap for direct thead use as well as the Dead Air Keymo mount and brake. This thought process leaves the choice to the end user as to which system of attachment is best for them.

Agent with the Dead Air Keymo Mount installed.

Another thing we did with the Agent that we have not traditionally done in the past is make a baffle design specific for this the 556 round and not compromise it with some other caliber to give it a multi-caliber option. This is because the Agent 556 silencer is designed from the outset for the 5.56 NATO cartridge and is truly optimized for it. As I was doing various tests on the prototypes, I would personally make minor adjustments to the baffle design to improve things like back pressure mitigation and tone and well as over all signature and flash reduction. We have done long term testing on this 556 silencer to see how it would handle things like rain where it would get water in it during use. This can be a problems as well, since adding water to a rifle silencer can make for a high pressure steam failure if the system is not designed to handle it. (As an aside, it worked flawlessly during these tests too, just producing glorious clouds of steam in the process.)

Something that is overlooked in many silencer designs is the back pressure generated in rifle silencers like the Agent. 556 silencers are especially susceptible to back pressure and the AR15 platform is greatly affected by the extra gas in the system as well. Ever since the introduction of our Zulu integral 556 silencer with the pressure vents on the front cap, we have incorporated this philosophy into our other rifle silencers we develop. The agent front cap has a plurality of tiny slots that line up with the joint between the tube and core where there is a high pressure low, low flow rate interface. This allows us to vent pressure from the silencer under very controlled conditions preventing secondary combustion, making the silencer even quieter.

9 radial ports in the front cap help vent high pressures away from the operator.

Finally, to top it all off, we added some more convenient features for the end user to benefit from this wonderful new 556 silencer. We made the front cap replaceable so in the unlikely event of a end cap strike, we dont have to mail the whole silencer back and forth across the country risking loss on every trip. It simply screws out and the new one screws in, easy as that. The other is the use of Type C Cerakote as it is almost indestructible and wont burn off during use. The front cap and thread adapter are done in black nitride so they dont need Cerakote light the titanium body does. So it is basically indestructible, for the most part and should easily last several lifetimes versus the rifle it is mounted to.

I hope you enjoyed this deep dive into the new Agent 556 silencer with me and come back for more info on here as we add more articles over time.

Thank you,

David Saylors

Liberty Suppressors

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